Some Of The Worst Bids Ever

By Eric Sorenson. Posted on May 25th, 2009 in Uncategorized

Everybody’s concentrating on Oklahoma State getting a bid, and it’s true, they sure as hell shouldn’t. But Southern Miss getting in with a 57 RPI? Who on the committee was determined to give Corky Palmer a going-away present?

I wasn’t real crash-hot about Baylor getting a bid either, after going 4-13 since Tax Day, including getting swept at Nebraska the last weekend. I don’t care if the RPI says you’re No. 1, if you get swept by Nebraska THIS year?… you don’t deserve squat.

And Kansas. Yes, they’ve at least played better down the stretch, but at No. 52 in the RPI, it’s a pain to the hearts of the Rhode Island Rams who finished at No. 53 and didn’t get in.

The other quirky thing about the field of 64? The curious picks to be No. 2 seeds. Here are a few I thought that should be viewed with a jaundiced eye:

- Oral Roberts is a No. 2 at Arizona State, after finishing with a No. 39 RPI.
- Georgia Southern is a No. 2 at Fullerton.
- Virginia is a No. 2 at Irvine, despite having a much better RPI (No. 6 compared to No. 18)
- Middle Tennessee is a No. 2 at Louisville, despite being four slots “worse” than No. 3 seed Vanderbilt.

More about the brackets later. These were some of my knee-jerk reactions.



May 25, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Joe says:

The theme of the day for me was strange two seeds. Virginia is the one that I thought should have been a 1. Then you have 2 seeds like Middle Tennessee, Oral Roberts, and Georgia Southern. When it comes to Oral Roberts, it’s almost like the committee just now noticed that Oral Roberts has a gaudy record every year and dominates their conference. News flash committee, they win 40 games most others years and have been more deserving of the high seed in others years and yet you chose this year to give them their due.

May 25, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Go Army - Go Hoos says:

Wow…in a post this morning to yesterday’s summation (not yet moderated as I write this), I was flippant that UVa had no room for complaints unless they had to face Strasburg and Berry in consecutive regional outings. It was sobering when I discovered I was half correct, because I expect Gwynn to throw his best to get by UVa…gut check time for the ‘Hoos. Let’s see what they’re made of.

May 25, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Gusball says:

Hey Stitch,
Man, there are some head-scratchers here. None bigger in my eyes than Okie State getting into the field…if you can’t even make your own conference tourney then you have NO PLACE in the NCAA tourney!! They got in solely on their RPI, and that’s bullshite. It should be about what you do on the field. Baylor is a really borderline pick, IMO. I’d have put Dallas Baptist in before the Bears, but the big-conference bias is something these guys on the selection committee just can’t get past. At least Auburn didn’t get in. And Irvine got the huge shaft from the committee; they were 5 games better than Fullerton and they get a FAR tougher regional — although CSF better really watch out for Utah in their first game. Should be some great baseball around the country though. Would love to see a Texas-TCU super in Austin. Can’t wait for first pitch of Texas-Army Friday night at the Disch!!

May 25, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Chris says:

Is MT getting the 2-seed over Vandy that big of a deal and stretch? MT won the Sun Belt Regular Season and Tourney, won 43 games, and beat Vandy at home 8-0 with their midweek pitching.

I know the SEC is a powerful conference, but the Belt held its own with the SEC this season, and are ranked as the #7 conference.

Vandy backed into the SEC tourney, and they did perform well there.

However, I don’t see it being that big of an “atrocity”. Furthermore, what difference does it make ?

If Vandy should have been the #2 seed over the Blue Raiders, they’ll beat them and move on to face the winner of L’ville/Indiana.

Getting tired of the power conference bias, frankly.

May 25, 2009 at 1:55 pm

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa all you stitch-heads out there. I hear you getting riled up and wanting to yell at Chris the Blue Raider here. Don’t worry, I’ll handle this.

Chris, God Bless ya’ man. But know first and foremost that I am a huh-YUGE mid-major guy here. I defend/cover mid-majors more than any other national writer out there. All my readers know this. That’s why I went to cover the Big 10, MAC and A-10 conference tournaments last week. The Big 12, Conference USA, ACC and SEC tourneys get plenty of coverage.

And I agree with you about Middle Tennessee, they’ve been on my radar all year. I didn’t mean to impart that Vanderbilt deserved a No. 2 seed over your Raiders, I just thought it was curious that the committee would actually put a mid-major over Vanderbilt. Sorry it came out that I didn’t believe they deserved it. In fact, I had mentioned last week that VU wasn’t deserving of a bid, if anything.

My apologies, I should’ve worded that differently about MT. I dig your team and hope they win that thing… though I’m more confident that Indiana will.

May 25, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Mike says:

Does anyone have suggestions for how the RPI formula could be improved to avoid such imbalances as we seem to see every year?

May 25, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Al-D says:

I know the committee is trying to keep schedule cost down. I know the 3rd major team (UF, FSU, UM) that doesn’t get to host has to always go to one of the others in Florida, and that two teams from the same state/area is standard, but 5 teams in the state made it, and 4 are all at one regional. Georgia and Georgia Southern aren’t in Atlanta with Tech and State. One or two of those Carolina teams could have come down.

May 25, 2009 at 2:56 pm
KC says:

Did you notice they paired the 3 regionals out west with regionals east of the Mississippi? On the one hand, that should assuage those who feel there is bias against the western schools who knock each other out on the way to Omaha; on the other hand, these pairings are most likely going to mean long road trips and higher travel costs to the Super Regionals for the lower seeded teams.

May 25, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Ryan R. says:

Most importantly, how could UC Irvine be hosed so badly? They have a Virginia team that should be a #1 seed, a San Diego St. team that is pretty darn good and Fresno St., the defending national champions, who while down this year has the experience and moxie. All of this while being dropped to the #6 national seed because the RPI is a list of words not suitable for children under the age of 15. Meanwhile Fullerton gets gifted a regional they should cruise through, then are matched up with an awful Louisville regional.

May 25, 2009 at 3:03 pm

Great point KC. I did notice that whole west vs. east, if you will. One of the first things I picked up on. I don’t think the “regionalization” was near as bad as I expected. Color me stunned.

May 25, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Guy says:

Eric, next time write your THE NIGHT-BEFORE THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND article a day earlier and in large-print type. Maybe use a lot of bold lettering and underlining. Send the committee a “screamer.” As it is, they missed most of your points this year. Too bad.

May 25, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Tiki Owl says:

Just a horrible job by the committee….why not just send 8 Big 12 teams to Omaha and get over the allusion that there is no Big 12 bias.

May 25, 2009 at 6:07 pm
Ryan R. says:

Irvine and Fullerton aren’t staggered enough to take in games at both. Fullerton is playing at 3 and 7, while Irvine is at 4 and 8. Boooooo

May 25, 2009 at 6:36 pm
Realist says:

Virginia finished sixth in the ACC and played an unbelievably weak nonconference schedule. A number 1 seed? They should be thrilled they’re a No. 2. Four one hot weekend in May shouldn’t overshadow the regular season, the true test of how good you are. Time for UVa to man up and play somebody other than Radford and VMI in the nonconference.

Virginia has sucked at the regional level. This year won’t be any different.

May 25, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Poon says:

Me hopes the Flashes blow up ASU

May 25, 2009 at 11:30 pm
PhxTitan says:

I guess when you finish playing the #1 SoS with the #1 RPI, #1 ISR, #1 Massey Ratings, CSF polled ahead of Texas in most the polls to boot… “gifted” regionals, SR’s path to Omaha should be bestowed. Texas was named the #1 National Seed for some oddly compromised reasoning… Fullerton got the #1 de facto path; rightly so — if UC Irvine was going to be screwed with a #6 seed and “death regional”. Texas was 17-9 in B-12 play, CSF 17-7 in B-West play, UC Irvine 22-2 in B-West.

What to do with the best pitcher in the history of college, or so the legend goes? If San Diego State has any chance to win that regional, I say roll the dice, take your chances with Virgina and save your superstar pitcher for UC Irvine for game two. The object is to avoid the losers’ bracket, but playing it safe in that bracket… is a ticket home for the lower seeds.

May 31, 2009 at 2:33 am
seandc2 says:

Gusball, you lose any credibility when you state that CSUF should be worried about Utah…18-2, yea close game, the Titans are the real deal, UCI being a newcomer to the national scene gets jobbed just like CSUF when they first came into the national spotlight. North Orange County is a major hotbed for baseball so don’t dis the Titans!